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- Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 04:30:12 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #718
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- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 29 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 718
-
- Today's Topics:
- AEA IsoLoop - Opinion
- Anyone USE DTMF Paging ?
- hf radiation
- IC2 AT mod
- Temp. Conversion Chart: F & C?
- Whereis callsign server (3 msgs)
-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
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-
- Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 12:16:48 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!nshore!seastar!jjw@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: AEA IsoLoop - Opinion
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- One more time, for the record: If there *was* something wrong with
- our Isoloop, it was wrong on the only other Isoloop we had known,
- whose owner *THREW IT AWAY* after using it for 6-8 months.
- We had the Loop mounted horizontally, at between 20 and 25 feet.
- It would be *VERY* hard for an apartment dweller to do much better
- than this indoors, and that's one great Isoloop claim to fame - that
- it's great indoors for apartment dwellers. We got ours from an
- apartment dweller who was intending to throw *it* out as well and go
- back to his home-made slinky antenna.
- We DID do side-by-side comparisons on several bands, within a minute
- of each other. The dipole, cut for 4.5MHz at 10 feet, was
- consistantly 4 or more S units better at the receiving station, and it
- made the other end about 4 or 5 S units stronger on our end.
- We shut the testing down and got rid of the antenna when we
- discovered that we were generating truly horrendous interference with
- all the computers in the apartment (another claim is that it causes
- almost no interference).
- We occasionally had to use an antenna tuner with it, as we could
- NOT get under 2:1 on some bands, and the tuning was ***VERY*** touchy
- (often being a single pulse wide for good SWR). In spite of the
- manual saying one did not need and should not use a tuner, there *is*
- a matching antenna tuner available for it. Think about this - why
- would they do that if the antenna truly should not be used with a
- tuner???
- Our results with the dummy load would lead me to suspect that I
- could do even better making a small loop antenna by hooking the loop
- up directly to the hot end of the resistor. The more wire we hung off
- the dummy load, the better our signal report (and the better the
- receive signal, too).
- Untill somebody else will do a side-by-side comparison, I will
- stand beside the laws of physics that show smaller antenna size will
- mean worse performance, and the concept that if you could fit a small
- loop in the attic you could also fit a wire dipole in the same space,
- with the advantage of a wire dipole being the total system cost is
- drastically lower. In short, if an antenna sounds too good to be
- true, it isn't true. There is no snake-oil cure for size.
- --
- While (its_not_working()) John Welch, N9JZW
- mess_with_it(); jjw@seastar.org
-
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- Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 16:42:25 PDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!sundog.tiac.net!news3.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!crash!hale!tommy@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Anyone USE DTMF Paging ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- uppal@cup.hp.com (Sanjay Uppal) writes:
-
- >
- > I thought initially that the DTMF Paging feature was a useful one.
- >
- IMHO, and you can precede everything I say with that, the paging function
- is only useful if you know you're in a situation that warrants it, such
- as volunteer event communications or sometime when you're expecting a
- call on a crowded frequency. I don't use it because it's too restrictive
- for me. I enjoy listening in and responding occasionally to all
- conversations. If a paging function allowed the use of subtones to cause
- an alert beep, or a data burst in the case of some radios, then normal
- comms could be used in the interim. Besides, I do listen for my call
- sign when the radio is on.
-
- > 1. The alternate to getting paged is either sitting glued to your
- > handie, or setting up some time aforehand for a QSO. If you
-
- All of my HTs came with a wall charger that can provide enough power to
- keep the battery topped off during a long listening session. I also
- bought a quick charger for each, and extra batteries, but that was for my
- ARES service, not just to have a spare. One need not stay glued to the
- radio, though you should be nearby when the page does come in. If I have
- page enabled, I can't hear what's going on so I don't know if I'm
- stepping on another QSO in progress. Again, these are only my views and
- should be taken with lots of salt.
- >
- > 2. The two repeaters I have tried do not pass DTMF codes. So while
-
- You'll find that any repeater that is intelligent or has an autopatch
- will not pass tones. This is to protect the somewhat secret combination
- needed for those repeaters. Here in San Diego, I think there are only
- three or four 144MHz repeaters that are "dumb" and can pass tones, and I
- can only get into one or two at a time in any one location with an HT. I
- don't think there are any 220 or 440MHZ machines that pass tones, in San
- Diego anyway.
- >
- > So how do you folks use DTMF page ? Do you find it useful ?
-
- As you can tell, I don't use paging. We (ARES) tried it at one community
- event, but because our comms are intended to be two-way, meaning a remote
- station may need to call NCS, paging can't work effectively.
-
- I guess that, in certain situations, paging could be useful, but because
- paging is slightly different for each radio (none of mine can page
- another), all parties involved need to have the same radio, at least the
- same brand.
-
- Good luck with your experiments. I will not condemn nor condone paging,
- but I will refrain from using it.
-
- If, by "Bay Area" you mean San Francisco Bay Area, I frequently visit
- friends and relatives in the Livermore Valley and use the Mt. Daiblo
- 147.21 machine. Hope to hear you next time I'm up.
-
- 73
- Tom
- KD6OZK
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Hale Telecommunications Inc./Public Access Internet Site 619/280-7775 V.32Bis
-
-
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-
- Date: 29 Jun 1994 03:32:57 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!sundog.tiac.net!news3.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!josephl@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: hf radiation
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- John Mollan - Harm (jmollan@egreen.iclnet.org) wrote:
-
- : When it comes to UHF signals in the microwave areas, care must be taken,
- : but these are not the frequencies (about 1000 Mhz) used by ham operators.
-
- Could you talk about this a little bit more? What if your house is located
- near teleco microwave towers? Could it be harmful?
-
-
- jal
-
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-
- Date: 27 Jun 94 12:10:26 GMT
- From: news.columbia.edu!spcuna!cherry.atlanta.com!emory!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!chemabs!vjh21@RUTGERS.EDU
- Subject: IC2 AT mod
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm posting for a friend, please respond directly to
- rrw21@cas.org
-
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------
- Can anyone on the net help me with a mod to an Icom IC-2AT?
-
- I need to bring out a signal when squelch is broken.
-
- For my application, that signal can either be a ground,
- or a battery voltage level signal.
-
- Does anybody know where in the circuit I can obtain that signal?
-
-
- Richard R. Wetherald KE8OD
- Internet: rrw21@cas.org
-
- --
- Vince Herried (KA8CTE); From Bitnet: vjh21@cas.org or vjh21%cas.org@ohstmvsa
- Chemical Abstracts Service (614) 447-3600 x 2877
- P.O. Box 3012, Columbus, OH 43210-0012
-
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-
- Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 14:04:33 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!csn!carbon!mercury.cair.du.edu!awinterb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Temp. Conversion Chart: F & C?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Does anyone know of a source for a quick temperature conversion chart
- between F and C? I can't recall the formula (or where to find it), and
- would just like a way to rapidly convert between the two scales when
- in QSO.
-
- 73 de Art, N0OQS
- --
- Art Winterbauer N0OQS
- Internet: awinterb@du.edu OR awinterb@diana.cair.du.edu
- Packet: n0oqs @ w0ljf.#neco.co.usa
-
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- Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 03:28:12 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!lfloyd@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Whereis callsign server
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- James,
- Try to telnet "callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000". You can search by call or
- name or city or state or zip. For example:
-
- city Dallas
-
- would show all hams in Dallas. Type "quit" to disconnect.
-
- Good luck!
-
- Larry - WB5HHM
-
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-
- Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 06:12:05 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!as041@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Whereis callsign server
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In a previous article, revco@YALE.EDU (Jim Revkin) says:
-
- >I don't seem to be able to login to a previously existing
- >amateur call-sign server:
- >
- >telnet ns.risc.net
- >
- >Anyone know of another one out there? Specifically I
- >need info on K0SN and N9JCL
-
- Jim..I tried to E-mail this to you but the mailer returned it to me as
- undeliverable.
-
- The address I have for the Buffalo callsign server is
- electra.cs.buffalo.edu. but I access it directly here from the Ottawa Freenet.
-
- In case you cannot connect, here is the dope on the calls cited:
-
- K0SN: Thomas Hellem, W 6321 Two Mile Rd., Porterfield WI 54159
- N9SCL: Edward Williams, 409 E. Lake Dr., Edwardsville IL 62025
-
- Hope this helps...
-
- 73, Rob
- --
- Robin Ludlow, VE3YE
- Orleans, Ontario, Canada
- as041@freenet.carleton.ca
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Jun 1994 03:17:11 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!montego!not-for-mail@@
- Subject: Whereis callsign server
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- as041@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Robin Ludlow) did contribute said ASCII:
- >Jim..I tried to E-mail this to you but the mailer returned it to me as
- >undeliverable.
- >
- >The address I have for the Buffalo callsign server is
- >electra.cs.buffalo.edu. but I access it directly here from the Ottawa Freenet.
- >
-
- Yes, that's correct (callsign.cs.buffalo.edu is what I use)
- and it's TERRIBLY out-of-date.
-
- Callsigns issued 8 months ago have not been updated.
-
- --
- ............................................................................
- Matt Rupert - 2984 Pheasant Run Dr. Apt D - Jackson MI 49202 - hoagy@ais.org
- Personal Security / UNIX Enthusiast / Amatuer Radio - KB8SGL
- "Earn cash in your spare time - blackmail your friends."
-
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